Monday, December 29th, 2008 at 1:48 pm. (368 views)
believing the world is flat. It’s archaic. Hundreds of years ago, sure, people didn’t have much ammo in terms of disproving God’s existence. But in the 21st century, people still think there’s some almighty man up in the clouds??? Come on.
We can disprove that the world is flat. But no one has ever been able to disprove the existence of God. In fact, there is more evidence supporting the possibility of God existing than there is in contradiction to it. So really, you have to be pretty arrogant to claim flat out that God does not exist. When did you become so all-knowing that you can make such a claim?
I agree with anonymous. It is ok to think that. You have your right. Truth of the matter is if 1 truly understood the facts and details then 1 would honestly know there’s more to discern than in a worldly lifetime.
“In fact, there is more evidence supporting the possibility of God existing than there is in contradiction to it.” — please provide examples of this evidence supporting that God exists.
To the first anonymous poster above… if you are claiming that the author of this post is “all-knowing” for stating that God does not exist, would you conversely state that anyone who states that God does exist to be “all-knowing” with the same sarcastic tone, assuming we can all agree upon the fact we can neither prove nor disprove God’s existence?
I just think having faith in something is better then nothing. Who is to say what is real and what is not? Creating good karma is key. It’s not the believers that are losing out, it is the nonbelievers. Believe in something. There is a choice or balance of good and evil, yes, bad things happen to us but who is to blame but the karma you brought on yourself by accepting or promoting evil.
You can have faith in ’something’ and be spiritual without being religious. Isn’t the ultimate point of religion to teach and instill good morals and values? Well, if that can be agreed upon, it is 100% possible to lead a good, moral life that betters others without having a single bit of religious background.
Its obvious to everyone on this planet, that there is a mixture of “good” and “evil” people. Who then, influences good, and who influences evil? What drives a man/woman to commit crimes against humanity, and what drives someone to sacrifice themselves for humanity? If God is not the influence behind the good in Mankind, then who is? Billy Graham? If Satan is not the influencer of evil, then who is? Charles Manson?
Can you reach out and touch unseen evil? Can you feel the texture of compassion?
Did you know, that natural gas cannot be seen, smelled or touched? Just because you cant, dont mean its not there. So I guess theres no such thing as natural gas either Huh?
Perhaps good and evil and every phase of the spectrum between the 2 are just innate parts of who we are and influenced by actual life experiences. To you it seems more plausible that, instead of having innate personality characteristics and also acting in ways that you’ve become accustomed to after years of life experience, there’s an awesome guy up in the clouds influencing the ‘good’ people and an evil, fire-spitting type of guy down under pushing on the ‘bad’ people? And that perhaps people that are a balance between ‘good’ and ‘evil’ are being fought over by guy-in-all-white up in the clouds versus man-with-horns in the fiery pits of hell? Absolute rubbish. And your slippery slope of saying if you don’t believe in god because there is literally no way of ever proving it you must not believe in natural gas is utterly absurd. Natural gas has been proven… it has a chemical compound. Ever heard of the term ’brainwashed’?
And what proof do you have that there isnt a God? And of course, you will ask me what proof I have that there is. It can go back and fourth till the day we die.
And I said nothing to the sort about not believing in natural gas Einstien, I simply said, just because you cant see it, hear it, touch it or smell it, it doesnt mean its not there. Understand the analogy?
If you’re right, and there is no God, then my beliefs were a waste of time. But if I’m right….
I choose to believe. You choose not to. And many people who do, have good reason.
I have seen first hand, how prayer healed cancer and other sicknesses. Not doctors. I’d love to go into detail with you, but you would only come up with some close minded scientific explanation or excuse as to why miracles happen.
People who are “brainwashed” have no will of thier own. I still have the choice to believe or not believe in God. So that dont put me in the “brainwashed” category.
I never claimed to have proof there isn’t a god. But with ZERO proof that there is, sorry but I’m a bit skeptical. God was a reason for people to justify why we exist thousands of years ago because science wasn’t nearly advanced enough to give people other reason. There is no way to officially disprove the existence of god and so wham, thousands of years later, there are still lemmings wasting their Sunday mornings in worship of an “idea”. You would think that as time progressed, people would realize that perhaps we exist because the biological conditions were right for life and growth… the reason we have other animals, plants, bacteria, etc. Ever heard of evolution?
I would love to hear your claims of prayer healing cancer, not doctors. Ever think that in these cases the patient luckily survives and there just happened to be prayer for them? Oh of course not, it must’ve been you thinking with your eyes closed that did it. The heck with doctors, I’ll just rely on someone trying to get in tune with the big guy in the sky.
I would love to believe that there’s some all-knowing entity that is benevolent and kind and forgiving and allows those who live good lives to have eternal bliss after death. Point is, I just don’t buy it. My goal on this earth is to treat others as I’d like to be treated, do what I can to make this world a more fruitful, safe, and preserved place for the next generation, and try to be a productive and progressive member of society. I do this because I think it’s the right thing to do, not because I’ve been told I should to secure my passage into heaven.
Yes, you have the choice to believe in god or not, and you choose to do it. In my opinion, that makes you brainwashed. I don’t expect you to understand this, people who are truly brainwashed can’t grasp it.
Oh and your last sentence: “So that dont put me in the “brainwashed” category.” — Nice grammar. Maybe you’d fit more appropriately in the uneducated category.
Your notations started out having interesting points, until you had to add the assumption of my being uneducated. It just shows that, not even christians are perfect. Besides, I dont think my grammar has anything to do with the subject matter.
Living your life as you do is commendable. I do agree, that its hard for some to believe there is a God without “proof” of His existence.
But I think it would be safe to say, that you also could be the brainwashed one for not believing.
As for stories of healing and miracles, what good would it do to tell you, if all you will do is scoff? But I will tell you this..I myself had been healed of a very painful bleeding ulcer, and it came about simply by praying. No medication, just faith. You’ll probably laugh and scoff at this story too, but I’ll tell you anyway, because there are people out there that will read this, and know the truth behind it.
I was going through a bad custody battle for my then 5 year old daughter who’s mother was, in my opinion and eventually the courts also, an unfit mother. The constant aggrivation, worry and anger from all this caused my bleeding ulcer. For 2 years I tried all kinds of medication and nothing worked, so I gave up the medicines. About a year later, during all the court battles and dead end attempts to gain custody of my daughter, my ulcer was becoming very painful to where I couldnt eat much.
As I was laying down on my couch one night, clutching my stomach from the pain, I prayed to God and asked Him to just show me He was there for me and that He was real. A minute later, I felt heat coming from under the hand on my stomach, and within seconds the pain was gone. I did not ask specificly for my ulcer to be healed, so I wasnt expecting it. But it happened. To this day, I never again had any pain. That was 17 years ago. So, yes I believe in God because I had a personal experience that made me believe, and not because someone “brainwashed” me. Other unexplainable experiences followed in the years to come. And the key word here is “experienced”. Some people can believe in God without having this kind of experience, and some people need to in order to open thier eyes. And being you are educated in the ways of living a good and wholesome life, I can assume that you too will someday have that experience. But for now, try keeping the insults to those who deserve them.
You know what really pisses me off? When people say that prayer caused this or that miracle. Why don’t they point out all the prayers that go unanswered? For example, if you pray for somebody to get better, and they do, it’s a miracle. If they die, then God just wanted to bring them to him, or some stuff like that. If people will have an experience to make them believe, then why couldn’t God save my grandmother when I prayed. That was the first time I ever prayed, and I put everything into it. That would have made me a believer for the rest of my life. What happened? My grandmother passed away, and I didn’t even get to say goodbye to her. This happened about a month ago.
This next part may sound stupid, but I hoped against everything that it would work. Last week, I saw my grandmother’s phone number in my cell. I prayed to God again, to just let me tell her bye. All it did was ring. This was the second and last time I ever prayed. There is no God. There is no soul. I stopped believing a long time ago.
you guys are fucking idiots.. i am not even gonna waste my time reading your bull shit answers on my god exists…have you ever heard the tern oxymoron??? hmm god is made out of everything and nothing.. that’s ridiculous… god and religion is a made up THING that you chicken shit people believe in so you won’t be afraid to die.. in the hopes that someone is there watching over you as you step in to the next realm of existence.. now i know there are ghosts because i live with them but to belive that some fucking thing is the creator of everything we have come to discover.. please.. ghost is energy… we are energy.. religion is bullshit.. open your GOD damn eye’s and see the real world for fucks sake… you think god is real .. then you believe that the slaughter of all the people in the crusades was legit.. you believe that the slaughter of all the native americans was legit… so if you believe in god.. the you might as well be a fucking nazi… and start killing mother fuckers with out any fucking reason.. your a fucking idiot you stupid religous fucks.. oh and burn in hell since you think it exists..
dude.. ya may wana check ur facts.. more people were killed by catholics in the dark ages or ‘crusades’ due to the fact that ppl didn’t want to live by catholic / pagan rule. most people are half right, on both sides of the spectrum. none of us will ever really know till the end.
isn’t it weird how saturday is the last day of the 7 day week, but catholics instituted sunday worship?
December 29th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
We can disprove that the world is flat. But no one has ever been able to disprove the existence of God. In fact, there is more evidence supporting the possibility of God existing than there is in contradiction to it. So really, you have to be pretty arrogant to claim flat out that God does not exist. When did you become so all-knowing that you can make such a claim?
March 27th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I agree with anonymous. It is ok to think that. You have your right. Truth of the matter is if 1 truly understood the facts and details then 1 would honestly know there’s more to discern than in a worldly lifetime.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
“In fact, there is more evidence supporting the possibility of God existing than there is in contradiction to it.” — please provide examples of this evidence supporting that God exists.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
To the first anonymous poster above… if you are claiming that the author of this post is “all-knowing” for stating that God does not exist, would you conversely state that anyone who states that God does exist to be “all-knowing” with the same sarcastic tone, assuming we can all agree upon the fact we can neither prove nor disprove God’s existence?
April 12th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
I just think having faith in something is better then nothing. Who is to say what is real and what is not? Creating good karma is key. It’s not the believers that are losing out, it is the nonbelievers. Believe in something. There is a choice or balance of good and evil, yes, bad things happen to us but who is to blame but the karma you brought on yourself by accepting or promoting evil.
April 13th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
You can have faith in ’something’ and be spiritual without being religious. Isn’t the ultimate point of religion to teach and instill good morals and values? Well, if that can be agreed upon, it is 100% possible to lead a good, moral life that betters others without having a single bit of religious background.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Its obvious to everyone on this planet, that there is a mixture of “good” and “evil” people. Who then, influences good, and who influences evil? What drives a man/woman to commit crimes against humanity, and what drives someone to sacrifice themselves for humanity? If God is not the influence behind the good in Mankind, then who is? Billy Graham? If Satan is not the influencer of evil, then who is? Charles Manson?
Can you reach out and touch unseen evil? Can you feel the texture of compassion?
Did you know, that natural gas cannot be seen, smelled or touched? Just because you cant, dont mean its not there. So I guess theres no such thing as natural gas either Huh?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Perhaps good and evil and every phase of the spectrum between the 2 are just innate parts of who we are and influenced by actual life experiences. To you it seems more plausible that, instead of having innate personality characteristics and also acting in ways that you’ve become accustomed to after years of life experience, there’s an awesome guy up in the clouds influencing the ‘good’ people and an evil, fire-spitting type of guy down under pushing on the ‘bad’ people? And that perhaps people that are a balance between ‘good’ and ‘evil’ are being fought over by guy-in-all-white up in the clouds versus man-with-horns in the fiery pits of hell? Absolute rubbish. And your slippery slope of saying if you don’t believe in god because there is literally no way of ever proving it you must not believe in natural gas is utterly absurd. Natural gas has been proven… it has a chemical compound. Ever heard of the term ’brainwashed’?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
And what proof do you have that there isnt a God? And of course, you will ask me what proof I have that there is. It can go back and fourth till the day we die.
And I said nothing to the sort about not believing in natural gas Einstien, I simply said, just because you cant see it, hear it, touch it or smell it, it doesnt mean its not there. Understand the analogy?
If you’re right, and there is no God, then my beliefs were a waste of time. But if I’m right….
I choose to believe. You choose not to. And many people who do, have good reason.
I have seen first hand, how prayer healed cancer and other sicknesses. Not doctors. I’d love to go into detail with you, but you would only come up with some close minded scientific explanation or excuse as to why miracles happen.
People who are “brainwashed” have no will of thier own. I still have the choice to believe or not believe in God. So that dont put me in the “brainwashed” category.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I never claimed to have proof there isn’t a god. But with ZERO proof that there is, sorry but I’m a bit skeptical. God was a reason for people to justify why we exist thousands of years ago because science wasn’t nearly advanced enough to give people other reason. There is no way to officially disprove the existence of god and so wham, thousands of years later, there are still lemmings wasting their Sunday mornings in worship of an “idea”. You would think that as time progressed, people would realize that perhaps we exist because the biological conditions were right for life and growth… the reason we have other animals, plants, bacteria, etc. Ever heard of evolution?
I would love to hear your claims of prayer healing cancer, not doctors. Ever think that in these cases the patient luckily survives and there just happened to be prayer for them? Oh of course not, it must’ve been you thinking with your eyes closed that did it. The heck with doctors, I’ll just rely on someone trying to get in tune with the big guy in the sky.
I would love to believe that there’s some all-knowing entity that is benevolent and kind and forgiving and allows those who live good lives to have eternal bliss after death. Point is, I just don’t buy it. My goal on this earth is to treat others as I’d like to be treated, do what I can to make this world a more fruitful, safe, and preserved place for the next generation, and try to be a productive and progressive member of society. I do this because I think it’s the right thing to do, not because I’ve been told I should to secure my passage into heaven.
Yes, you have the choice to believe in god or not, and you choose to do it. In my opinion, that makes you brainwashed. I don’t expect you to understand this, people who are truly brainwashed can’t grasp it.
Oh and your last sentence: “So that dont put me in the “brainwashed” category.” — Nice grammar. Maybe you’d fit more appropriately in the uneducated category.
April 14th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Your notations started out having interesting points, until you had to add the assumption of my being uneducated. It just shows that, not even christians are perfect. Besides, I dont think my grammar has anything to do with the subject matter.
Living your life as you do is commendable. I do agree, that its hard for some to believe there is a God without “proof” of His existence.
But I think it would be safe to say, that you also could be the brainwashed one for not believing.
As for stories of healing and miracles, what good would it do to tell you, if all you will do is scoff? But I will tell you this..I myself had been healed of a very painful bleeding ulcer, and it came about simply by praying. No medication, just faith. You’ll probably laugh and scoff at this story too, but I’ll tell you anyway, because there are people out there that will read this, and know the truth behind it.
I was going through a bad custody battle for my then 5 year old daughter who’s mother was, in my opinion and eventually the courts also, an unfit mother. The constant aggrivation, worry and anger from all this caused my bleeding ulcer. For 2 years I tried all kinds of medication and nothing worked, so I gave up the medicines. About a year later, during all the court battles and dead end attempts to gain custody of my daughter, my ulcer was becoming very painful to where I couldnt eat much.
As I was laying down on my couch one night, clutching my stomach from the pain, I prayed to God and asked Him to just show me He was there for me and that He was real. A minute later, I felt heat coming from under the hand on my stomach, and within seconds the pain was gone. I did not ask specificly for my ulcer to be healed, so I wasnt expecting it. But it happened. To this day, I never again had any pain. That was 17 years ago. So, yes I believe in God because I had a personal experience that made me believe, and not because someone “brainwashed” me. Other unexplainable experiences followed in the years to come. And the key word here is “experienced”. Some people can believe in God without having this kind of experience, and some people need to in order to open thier eyes. And being you are educated in the ways of living a good and wholesome life, I can assume that you too will someday have that experience. But for now, try keeping the insults to those who deserve them.
July 4th, 2009 at 4:35 am
You know what really pisses me off? When people say that prayer caused this or that miracle. Why don’t they point out all the prayers that go unanswered? For example, if you pray for somebody to get better, and they do, it’s a miracle. If they die, then God just wanted to bring them to him, or some stuff like that. If people will have an experience to make them believe, then why couldn’t God save my grandmother when I prayed. That was the first time I ever prayed, and I put everything into it. That would have made me a believer for the rest of my life. What happened? My grandmother passed away, and I didn’t even get to say goodbye to her. This happened about a month ago.
This next part may sound stupid, but I hoped against everything that it would work. Last week, I saw my grandmother’s phone number in my cell. I prayed to God again, to just let me tell her bye. All it did was ring. This was the second and last time I ever prayed. There is no God. There is no soul. I stopped believing a long time ago.
October 9th, 2009 at 12:49 am
you guys are fucking idiots.. i am not even gonna waste my time reading your bull shit answers on my god exists…have you ever heard the tern oxymoron??? hmm god is made out of everything and nothing.. that’s ridiculous… god and religion is a made up THING that you chicken shit people believe in so you won’t be afraid to die.. in the hopes that someone is there watching over you as you step in to the next realm of existence.. now i know there are ghosts because i live with them but to belive that some fucking thing is the creator of everything we have come to discover.. please.. ghost is energy… we are energy.. religion is bullshit.. open your GOD damn eye’s and see the real world for fucks sake… you think god is real .. then you believe that the slaughter of all the people in the crusades was legit.. you believe that the slaughter of all the native americans was legit… so if you believe in god.. the you might as well be a fucking nazi… and start killing mother fuckers with out any fucking reason.. your a fucking idiot you stupid religous fucks.. oh and burn in hell since you think it exists..
October 9th, 2009 at 12:51 am
and yes i fucking misspelled some shit so fuck off..
October 9th, 2009 at 6:59 am
dude.. ya may wana check ur facts.. more people were killed by catholics in the dark ages or ‘crusades’ due to the fact that ppl didn’t want to live by catholic / pagan rule. most people are half right, on both sides of the spectrum. none of us will ever really know till the end.
isn’t it weird how saturday is the last day of the 7 day week, but catholics instituted sunday worship?